John Fisher and Thomas More

10 Sep 2024
2:00 pm

Keeping Their Souls While Losing Their Heads

Join the IHE for a virtual event on John Fisher and Thomas More: Keeping Their Souls While Losing Their Heads with author Judge Robert J. Conrad, Jr., and William Saunders, J.D. This event is cosponsored by the Center for Law and the Human Person and the Project on Constitutional Originalism and the Catholic Intellectual Tradition.

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In 1929, nearly four hundred years after the deaths of Saints Thomas More and John Fisher, G.K. Chesterton observed in words equally applicable to Fisher, “Blessed Thomas More is more important at this moment than at any moment since his death, even perhaps the great moment of his dying; but he is not quite so important as he will be in a hundred years.” Judge Robert J. Conrad, Jr., anticipates Chesterton’s one-hundred-year mark in a collection of stories from the lives of More and Fisher, demonstrating how their sanctity and integrity carried them and those who loved them through tumultuous and heart-wrenching times which, perhaps surprisingly, bear a striking resemblance to the present epoch.


  • Judge Robert Conrad, Jr.
    Judge Robert Conrad, Jr.
    Senior Judge, United States District Court for the Western District of North Carolina

    Judge Robert J. Conrad, Jr., is a trial judge, ex-federal prosecutor, former ACC college basketball player, father, grandfather, coach, mentor, teacher, and amateur historian.

    In 2007, he was nominated by President George W. Bush to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

    In John Fisher and Thomas More: Keeping Their Souls While Losing Their Heads, he examines the lives of John Fisher and Thomas More with a trial lawyer’s love for advocacy. He brings to life Thomas More and John Fisher’s example of fidelity to a well-formed conscience, vision of eternal life with God, and willingness to die rather than submit to a raw exercise of royal power.

  • William Saunders, J.D.
    William Saunders, J.D.
    Director of the Program in Human Rights, The Catholic University of America

    William Saunders, J.D., is a graduate of the Harvard Law School who has been involved in issues of public policy, law and ethics for thirty years. A regular columnist for the National Catholic Bioethics Quarterly, Mr. Saunders has written widely on these topics, as well as on Catholic social teaching. He has given lectures in law schools and colleges throughout the United States and the world. Mr. Saunders’ latest book, Unborn Human Life and Fundamental Rights: Leading Constitutional Cases Under Scrutiny, was published in 2019. He is the Director of the Program in Human Rights at the Institute for Human Ecology, which includes the M.A. in Human Rights. He is also the Director of the Center for Human Rights, where he works closely with Distinguished Fellow, Chen Guangcheng.

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